Still no luck...I found the key to the Hjerim house on a suicide body in the Shatter Shield house. I looked around the Hjierim house and found the butcher journal, the warning letters and the investigation sites. However nothing happened when I selected the different investigation sites. Then I realized that I was the reason Shatter Shield killed himself because I killed his second daughter in the Dark Brotherhood quest. So i loaded a game 4 levels back to when he and his daughter was still alive and before I talked to the contract wanting her killed. I then talked to the Jarl and he told me to help 5 people and buy a house to become Thane. So I finished helping 5 people quest and traveled back and forth to Windhelm probably 10 times and still no Blood/Ice trigger. The Shatter Shield guy did give me a quest for an Amulet...Do I need to do that first?