You mean again? I couldn't agree more.I don't think you want to go down this road on this forum
Ulfrick is a fine leader... for Nords. Every other race would be doomed if he were High King. Why do you think that the Argonians are confined to the docks and the Dunmer are confined to the Grey Quarter? In fact, most Nords are pretty racist (not all) the Khajiiti aren't even allowed in cities.
And yet, when you play an Argo or a Khajit, they treat you just like everyone else (other than calling you a Lizard or threatening to make a carpet out of you). Make RP a little difficult.Ulfrick is a fine leader... for Nords. Every other race would be doomed if he were High King. Why do you think that the Argonians are confined to the docks and the Dunmer are confined to the Grey Quarter? In fact, most Nords are pretty racist (not all) the Khajiiti aren't even allowed in cities.
It is very lore breaking, I believe that Bethesda backed itself into a corner. They should've made you earn the cities respect by doing misc. missions for them and when you earned enough of the cities respect they would let you in. Or if your rich, you should be able to buy your way in. They couldn't really do this either, because it would discourage people from playing as a Khajiiti or Argonian. Bethesda should've thought twice about the anti Argonian and Khajiiti approach.And yet, when you play an Argo or a Khajit, they treat you just like everyone else (other than calling you a Lizard or threatening to make a carpet out of you). Make RP a little difficult.Ulfrick is a fine leader... for Nords. Every other race would be doomed if he were High King. Why do you think that the Argonians are confined to the docks and the Dunmer are confined to the Grey Quarter? In fact, most Nords are pretty racist (not all) the Khajiiti aren't even allowed in cities.
Agreed. Not that it stops me anyhow, but, as I said, it makes RP challenging.It is very lore breaking, I believe that Bethesda backed itself into a corner. They should've made you earn the cities respect by doing misc. missions for them and when you earned enough of the cities respect they would let you in. Or if your rich, you should be able to buy your way in. They couldn't really do this either, because it would discourage people from playing as a Khajiiti or Argonian. Bethesda should've thought twice about the anti Argonian and Khajiiti approach.And yet, when you play an Argo or a Khajit, they treat you just like everyone else (other than calling you a Lizard or threatening to make a carpet out of you). Make RP a little difficult.Ulfrick is a fine leader... for Nords. Every other race would be doomed if he were High King. Why do you think that the Argonians are confined to the docks and the Dunmer are confined to the Grey Quarter? In fact, most Nords are pretty racist (not all) the Khajiiti aren't even allowed in cities.
No, he's not, if the nords on this game were black people nobody would have ever made this assumption nor would they have started this foolish "ulfric is a racist" fanclub. It amazes me sometimes how incredibly stupid and hypocritical people can be.So whats up with Ulfric oppressing the Black Elves and the lizards? I cant question him about it but this one dude was sayin how Ulfric only cares about his people and not the lizards or elves. Is it true Ulfric is a racist?
~Lilpack
No, he's not, if the nords on this game were black people nobody would have ever made this assumption nor would they have started this foolish "ulfric is a racist" fanclub. It amazes me sometimes how incredibly stupid and hypocritical people can be.So whats up with Ulfric oppressing the Black Elves and the lizards? I cant question him about it but this one dude was sayin how Ulfric only cares about his people and not the lizards or elves. Is it true Ulfric is a racist?
~Lilpack
I don't believe that for one second because i've seen numerous other scenarios where black people on videogames, sitcoms, web shows and movies were being so overly obvious with there racism that it was like watching a hate speech and not one person so much as even questioned if it was racist. In actuality if the roles were reversed and redguards were in the role of nords and vice versa not only would everybody be on the side of redguards but anyone against them would be labeled a racist. Welcome to the harsh reality of "stupid people"No, he's not, if the nords on this game were black people nobody would have ever made this assumption nor would they have started this foolish "ulfric is a racist" fanclub. It amazes me sometimes how incredibly stupid and hypocritical people can be.So whats up with Ulfric oppressing the Black Elves and the lizards? I cant question him about it but this one dude was sayin how Ulfric only cares about his people and not the lizards or elves. Is it true Ulfric is a racist?
~Lilpack
Not really, Ulfric really is racist. If Redguards did the same thing they would also be racist. I don't think skin colour really dictates your racist capacity.
This is the world of Elder Scrolls. Racists don't care about skin colour, they care about what race you are. People would still hate Ulfrick if he were Redguard, Bosmer, Argonian, or Imperial. Ulfrick is/was (depending on what you did) doing some horrible things to other races. He leaves Argonians in sub zero weather and only gave them a bunk house to share. He leaves Dunmer in a slum and also leaves Khajiiti in sub zero weather. Khajiiti don't even have a bunkhouse.I don't believe that for one second because i've seen numerous other scenarios where black people on videogames, sitcoms, web shows and movies were being so overly obvious with there racism that it was like watching a hate speech and not one person so much as even questioned if it was racist. In actuality if the roles were reversed and redguards were in the role of nords and vice versa not only would everybody be on the side of redguards but anyone against them would be labeled a racist. Welcome to the harsh reality of "stupid people"No, he's not, if the nords on this game were black people nobody would have ever made this assumption nor would they have started this foolish "ulfric is a racist" fanclub. It amazes me sometimes how incredibly stupid and hypocritical people can be.
Not really, Ulfric really is racist. If Redguards did the same thing they would also be racist. I don't think skin colour really dictates your racist capacity.
I don't believe that for one second because i've seen numerous other scenarios where black people on videogames, sitcoms, web shows and movies were being so overly obvious with there racism that it was like watching a hate speech and not one person so much as even questioned if it was racist. In actuality if the roles were reversed and redguards were in the role of nords and vice versa not only would everybody be on the side of redguards but anyone against them would be labeled a racist. Welcome to the harsh reality of "stupid people"No, he's not, if the nords on this game were black people nobody would have ever made this assumption nor would they have started this foolish "ulfric is a racist" fanclub. It amazes me sometimes how incredibly stupid and hypocritical people can be.
Not really, Ulfric really is racist. If Redguards did the same thing they would also be racist. I don't think skin colour really dictates your racist capacity.
I don't believe that for one second because i've seen numerous other scenarios where black people on videogames, sitcoms, web shows and movies were being so overly obvious with there racism that it was like watching a hate speech and not one person so much as even questioned if it was racist. In actuality if the roles were reversed and redguards were in the role of nords and vice versa not only would everybody be on the side of redguards but anyone against them would be labeled a racist. Welcome to the harsh reality of "stupid people"Not really, Ulfric really is racist. If Redguards did the same thing they would also be racist. I don't think skin colour really dictates your racist capacity.
STFU CORNBALL BITCH.
I don't believe that for one second because i've seen numerous other scenarios where black people on videogames, sitcoms, web shows and movies were being so overly obvious with there racism that it was like watching a hate speech and not one person so much as even questioned if it was racist. In actuality if the roles were reversed and redguards were in the role of nords and vice versa not only would everybody be on the side of redguards but anyone against them would be labeled a racist. Welcome to the harsh reality of "stupid people"No, he's not, if the nords on this game were black people nobody would have ever made this assumption nor would they have started this foolish "ulfric is a racist" fanclub. It amazes me sometimes how incredibly stupid and hypocritical people can be.
Not really, Ulfric really is racist. If Redguards did the same thing they would also be racist. I don't think skin colour really dictates your racist capacity.
Dude i'm well aware that its a fantasy world within a videogame but i was using that as an example to explain why yarl ulfric is considered a racist, if he were a redguard character everybody would be too afraid to call him a racist for obvious reasons. I knew before posting the comment that nobody was going to agree and anyone who did agree was not going to be brave enough to admit it, but thats reality and i don't believe in telling people what they wanna hear i believe in giving them facts and letting the chips fall where they may. And i'm going to bow out of this conversation now because in my forum experience topics like this one never end well. lolI don't believe that for one second because i've seen numerous other scenarios where black people on videogames, sitcoms, web shows and movies were being so overly obvious with there racism that it was like watching a hate speech and not one person so much as even questioned if it was racist. In actuality if the roles were reversed and redguards were in the role of nords and vice versa not only would everybody be on the side of redguards but anyone against them would be labeled a racist. Welcome to the harsh reality of "stupid people"Not really, Ulfric really is racist. If Redguards did the same thing they would also be racist. I don't think skin colour really dictates your racist capacity.
It all stems down to what Drunkenmage explained a couple posts up, its not black and white in fantasy, its species and species. Saying there is a racial double standard in Skyrim because you seen tongue-in-cheek racism in a Tyler Perry show isn't quite the same at all. That seems more of in the realm of "stupid people". I know what you are saying though with the racist double standard, I see it too, don't worry, and if we were talking about non-white racism in TV or movies I'd be on your side. This is Tamriel though, pl***s played out differently. If you want to apply real world standards to Skyrim, then sure, but I would say its far from the real world, don't you think?