Docta Corvina
Well-Known Member
The bottom line is the Dunmers and the Argonians have shelters where they can cook their food and sleep. They get the protection that is provided from the Jarl. It might not be the prettiest place to live in, but it's still cozy. They also own a pawn store, a tavern of their own, and a street vender.
Why are they complaining when they have it good? Is it because the citizens are harassing them? Guess what bullying is part of life, which is unfortunate. Perhaps they should defend themselves by standing up for what is right.
Perhaps if they had fighting drive like Gabriella from the dark brotherhood then maybe the citizens there would leave them alone.
Think someone like Rolff Stone-Fist would try to mess with someone like her? Most likely not. Fear earns respect.
I don't know why you keep insisting that we're arguing that Ulfric is carpet-bombing the Gray Quarter every night, or that we know for sure there are groups of local thugs torturing the Dunmer. I'll even let Rolff's little quip to the effect of "we have ways of making you [the Dunmer] talk" go by without much comment. Though I hardly think that he's talking an ice cream cone and a trip to Disney World. But even that aside, no one has yet argued that the Dunmer lack residences or businesses. The fact that you keep bringing it up only means that there's nothing else even remotely positive to be said about the situation. The bottom line is that Ulfric has maintained a policy of racial segregation. End of. It doesn't weigh with everyone the same way who plays this game, obviously. And just because one is a Stormcloak doesn't mean they have to make excuses for it or try to minimize it to the point of dismissal. It seems to me that even some of Ulfric's own people in the game would be inclined to argue against its necessity. As Dagmar has repeatedly pointed out, it's not the Empire's biggest selling point nor the Stormcloaks' worst point, really.
The Dunmer have what they are allowed to have in Windhelm. That means a home in the ghetto. That's really the sense of it. They aren't picking up and moving for different reasons, including lack of funds as well as the fact that family is either in Windhelm as well or otherwise in a place that would be difficult to reach should they return to Morrowind - which still isn't exactly all that it used to be since the eruption. All of these are things confirmed by NPCs and easily observable.
And I should say, you've brought up the point about "fighting back" before. And once again, I have to ponder your seriousness. Forget what the Dunmer have now - I really don't think that "fighting back", especially in the present climate in Windhelm, would get them very far. Quite possibly, a few steps backward. I'd like to see just how long it'd take for there to be a mass expulsion or worse at the hands of already very insular, very bitter Nord residents. This is why Brunwulf is a godsend. He is a necessity and I'm thrilled that a character like him was included. And when he becomes Jarl, things begin to change without civil chaos on the part of the residents - at least not any that Beth has so far seen fit to show us. It goes to show that changes, like rescinding of racial policies and even more subtle and gradual changes, could occur there. Ulfric, it seems, just didn't choose to care. And I mean even way back before he started beating the war drums.