exactly, stuff like the thieves guild were better in oblivion, mainly because they didn't make you into a thug shaking down merchants for protection money, or force you to work for someone like Maven Blackbriar, The other questline were better too, and there was the fabulous fighters guild arena. So basically lets sum it up like this other than being able to fight dragons Skyrim has story issues like working for either a empire that wants to oppress religious beliefs, or a rebellion that is xenophobic, thieves guild is a glorified thugs guild, a fighters quild that is non existant except the companions who don't care what you do, a mages guild that also doesn't care about helping skyrim, the blades want all dragons dead , Greybeards who want you to be a peacenick. The only good quest line is the Nightingales.... all of this is my opinion so flame away if you want but give a good rebutal if possible