And if Tiber wasn't in Hammerfell or High Rock at the time (im not totally clear on the timeline) the rebellion wouldn't have even happened.
He was driven out of the city... He was there.
If the Forsworn rise up again, or one of your Skyrim doomsday scenarios comes true and the Dominion is all over Cyrodiil, who's there for Skyrim?
Who would be there for Skyrim if the Stormcloaks are all fighting in the South? I doubt there is much one can do for Skyrim if it happened during the War. After the war, then that is another matter.
Exactly my point, except if Skyrim is independent none of its resources are diverted to an Imperial war effort.
They'd just be diverted to a Stormcloak war effort? Who require more since they're not getting things from High Rock or other provinces. They don't use mercenaries, so be a more demand to have to field these armies and arm them.
I didn't claim Rikke knows nothing, the people they sent from Cyrodiil know nothing. The Imperials are damn lucky to have her because if it wasn't for Rikke I'd hate to see how badly the war would go for them.
"Sorry, which way is Winterhelm? You know, where Count Ulfric lives."
You really think the Legion are a bunch of idiots?
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:The_Holds_of_Skyrim
They at least wrote a small guide for new Legion Officers for the Civil War.
"Which way is Winterhelm"? Considering Windhelm was once a Legion garrison prior to the Great War. They don't call Jarls "Counts" either.
Yeah, exactly second in command. She still answers to Tullius and Cyrodiil. And of the new jarls, who is she going to influence? Brunwulf has his own plan, Brina probably already knows how Imperials run things, and Winterhold won't see any real change in her lifetime. Oh but I'm sure Maven will listen to whatever Rikke has to say.
She still provides advice to Tullius which he listens to, and he's come to respect the Nords. They do not answer to Cyrodiil, they answer to the Emperor or the Grand Marshal of the Legion. The Imperial Legion do not swear loyalty to Cyrodiil, they swear to the Emperor and to the Officers of the Legion.
Maven isn't an idiot, more powerful people have been brought down by the Legion. She won't test them. She knows how to play along, and dance a tune.
You think Skyrim will be on the same level with Cyrodiil after they've gone through war and dragons? Not to mention they were in open rebellion against them, and thier entire government has just been hand-picked by the Empire.
Stormcloaks were in open rebellion, not Skyrim. Of course Skyrim will be on the same level as Cyrodiil, it doesn't matter what they suffered. Cyrodiil and Skyrim do not outrank each other. Think of the Imperial City as it's own kingdom. Cyrodiil, just like Skyrim can have problems with that little kingdom. Both are equally represented.
There certainly isn't a Stormcloak rebellion in Cyrodiil.
No, just a lot of unrest. Cyrodiil has their own issues with the Empire's orders too.
I'm not sure how that quote proves Talos is more important to Imperials than Nords.
They're about the same.
That's nice but I'm not supporting Istlod for High King. Any form of government that let the WGC happen is not something I want Skyrim to continue to be a part of.
Yet there are those who wish to remain part of the Empire. The White-Gold Concordat was done by Titus Mede II, and no one likes the damn thing.
Do you think that the actual banning of Talos is the only thing that makes the WGC so despised? While he's unimaginably important yes, the Empire stripped its people of freedom, put its people's fate in the hands of the enemy.
People are never free in Tamriel, and their fate is always at the hands of the enemy. The Thalmor have been killing these people for over a hundred and fifty years, the Empire just opened your eyes and you see them walking about.
And if they can do it once, why can't they do it again?
They probably could do it again, but why would they? This was not done by choice, and pl*** doesn't always work the way you want it to. Can't prance about demanding the good, and the moment the bad happens you throw a fit and get a new regime.
And if the legion isn't even actively campaigning to get a Nordic army together I don't see a lot of Nords ending up in the legion for the war.
Why is that? They're going to refuse to fight against the Thalmor after the White-Gold Concordat is gone? They don't
need to join the Legion for that. Though the Legion's training may help.
There are many Nords in the Legion now. Stop confusing Stormcloaks with all Nords.
Revolutions don't succeed through mildness. But after the war, Ulfric is no idiot, if you think he's gonna approach every problem by swinging an axe at it, you haven't paid that much attention to him.
Truly? I'm sure he'll approach each problem depending if it increases his image. Though he won't be swinging an axe, he'll be using that fancy ancient royal blade he has his blacksmith creating.
If the Concordat happens, and is eventually tossed out but no one ever spoke up about it, the Empire will realize they can impose whatever they like, and their subjects will let them get away with it.
No they won't. The Empire would fracture if they decided to impose whatever they wanted. People do speak up about it, no one wants the White-Gold Concordat. The Empire didn't do it to test to see if they can do whatever they wanted.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely, and all that.
Perhaps that is why the Empire is ruled not by a single man, but an Emperor and two Councils.
"We will do whatever I decide is in the best interests of Skyrim. Are we clear?" - Ulfric Stormcloak