DrunkenMage
Intoxicated Arch-Mage
You're arguing my posts towards the 'Stupid Design' and expecting it to prove God doesn't exist, and expecting that it is the evidence to prove evolution, to prove there is no God.
The video you first quoted, isn't about proving anything. All it is saying, the underline of the message. "We're not that important in the scheme of things"
We're one part of a much larger picture. Refusing to let go of being great, of being the most cherished.
What I've come to expect from you isn't extreme, or fanaticism. I find debating with you interesting, you come into things from a more philosophical stance.
It's not simply about, well religion is dead wrong. There are thousands of religions, thousands of Gods. It's not about proving God does not exist, but rejecting what the Bible is saying about creationism, what creationists are saying about 6000 year old Earth. Rejecting the current and opening much more to explore. Something religion is refusing to do, they're far more interested in clinging onto the Bible and trying to attack anything, mostly with straw grasping arguments. Or using 'evidence' which is either partly untruthful or just plain lying.
Sure there are a few religious people, who are willing to accept more. But majority, is not. Mostly out of faith, others want to truly believe there is something beyond this life. It's to do with our mortality, no one wants it to end.
Universe, there are billions, upon billions of Galaxies, more than you could count, more than we could even imagine. No one is saying bigger is better, but you're referring to a supermassive Black Hole. Which is measuring in the hundreds of thousands of solar masses, one solar mass equals the mass of the Sun, up to billions of solar masses, these objects posses an immense power. A supermassive black hole, is something located in the core of a galaxy and is apparently at least partially hold galaxies together.
Biggest isn't best, and I'm not suggesting it is. There is so much more to see, so much to discover, so much to do. Sadly, Organized Religion will often promote ignorance instead of intelligence. I'm sure you have seen many Pro Religious arguments against Science, and have indeed seen ignorance and fanaticism. I've never suggested that you do that.
The Bible isn't the answer to everything, it's a book that was written a very long time ago.
When I think of the Bible, I think it was meant to be something to keep on going. To keep getting new pages, to change as we change, to keep going through generations. Not stopping and becoming doctrine. Is it meant to be the book of God? Or the book of Man?
The video you first quoted, isn't about proving anything. All it is saying, the underline of the message. "We're not that important in the scheme of things"
We're one part of a much larger picture. Refusing to let go of being great, of being the most cherished.
And? We still stand unique in being able to think as we do. To reason as we do. Findingmultiple earth like planets proves many things and does open worlds (tee hee) of thinking. But until we find other "sentient" life there is nothing for religion to reject. You can be in up points in how some extreme people may react ( and I do believe that is what you expect from me, but it still holds little bearing on religious teaching at all. Religion is quite possibly one side of the coin that demonstrates our strange reasoning. The other side being science. The irony is the coin is intolerance.
What I've come to expect from you isn't extreme, or fanaticism. I find debating with you interesting, you come into things from a more philosophical stance.
It's not simply about, well religion is dead wrong. There are thousands of religions, thousands of Gods. It's not about proving God does not exist, but rejecting what the Bible is saying about creationism, what creationists are saying about 6000 year old Earth. Rejecting the current and opening much more to explore. Something religion is refusing to do, they're far more interested in clinging onto the Bible and trying to attack anything, mostly with straw grasping arguments. Or using 'evidence' which is either partly untruthful or just plain lying.
Sure there are a few religious people, who are willing to accept more. But majority, is not. Mostly out of faith, others want to truly believe there is something beyond this life. It's to do with our mortality, no one wants it to end.
I also want to point out size means little. A black hole is but literally a point of extreme gravity. A single point in your grand galaxy, yet that point is what is holding the galaxy together. Something to think about "bigger doesnt mean better, and size is not a prize."
Universe, there are billions, upon billions of Galaxies, more than you could count, more than we could even imagine. No one is saying bigger is better, but you're referring to a supermassive Black Hole. Which is measuring in the hundreds of thousands of solar masses, one solar mass equals the mass of the Sun, up to billions of solar masses, these objects posses an immense power. A supermassive black hole, is something located in the core of a galaxy and is apparently at least partially hold galaxies together.
Biggest isn't best, and I'm not suggesting it is. There is so much more to see, so much to discover, so much to do. Sadly, Organized Religion will often promote ignorance instead of intelligence. I'm sure you have seen many Pro Religious arguments against Science, and have indeed seen ignorance and fanaticism. I've never suggested that you do that.
The Bible isn't the answer to everything, it's a book that was written a very long time ago.
When I think of the Bible, I think it was meant to be something to keep on going. To keep getting new pages, to change as we change, to keep going through generations. Not stopping and becoming doctrine. Is it meant to be the book of God? Or the book of Man?