Spoiler Boss difficulty

[tx12001]

1) No. Alduin scales on difficulty level. Not player level. I know this because I tried fighting him with parthunaax at legendary and lvl 15 and got owned everytime in one or two breath shouts. What furthers this is looking at his stats online.

2. Wrong again. You can look it up yourself. Regardless Alduin based on difficulty can have anywhere from 50% to 70% resistance to all attacks both physical or magically. Ome sites even state he can be immune to magic completely on legendary.

Nope. Alduin is:
Level-PC×1.2 (range=10-100)
Health-2250+(PC-1.2)X14
And I did look it up, where are you getting your information from? Not elder scrolls wiki again?

And I hope you aren't using USEP site again because I was viewing a thread here on the ring of hircine in which members stated USEP is not the official site for skyrim and has made up info just like the site you think I'm using.

what is USEP I am using the Creation kit where people make mods for the game, every stat of every character is being read of the games data not people opinions the creation kit can not be wrong, go ahead ask me any charcter's level and I will give you their stats, factions and their morale

 

[tx12001]

And I hope you aren't using USEP site again because I was viewing a thread here on the ring of hircine in which members stated USEP is not the official site for skyrim and has made up info just like the site you think I'm using.

UESP is the most reliable and detailed Elder Scrolls reference on the internet. Just because somebody said something on here doesn't mean it's true.

Isnt USEP no different from Wikipedia? perhaps it is more reliable than wikipdia but it is not 100% accurate like the CK

 

[Black Ice]

Neither of you are right, I use the creation kit and I know what his stats are, he levels at 1.25 your level up to level 100

If your looking at the usep or es site or playing on console your wrong, he scales from difficulty.

They have difficulty levels for a reason. Otherwise his scaling would stay the same be it on novice or legendary.

I use the Creation kit, I am on PC not console, I am a Modder and that is not how difficulty works, higher difficulty means you do less damage, enemies do more, adept difficulty is 50/50 you can change difficulty ingame at any time it does not automatically increase an enemies level if you set it to legendary and it does not go down if you set it to novice, enemy scaling counts towards your characters level nothing else and correction alduins scaling is 1.20 your level not 1.25 as I said before

You are acting as if I've never played skyrim on a pc either or don't have friends that do? I have no reason to make this stuff up, I don't care if you believe Alduin is the weakest. My problem here is that everyone calls him weak yet they forget the fact they never actually fought him one on one. Added with all the people haxing their gear and using console commands to cheat through everything there's hardly a reliable reason to justify that Alduin is the weakest.

Tho it should be noted, on YouTube there are video battles of Alduin vs harkon and Alduin vs miraak. Alduin always owns them both. Decipher this as you see fit before saying which is the weakest. Imo harkon was pathetic. Miraak was decent.

 

[Black Ice]

And I hope you aren't using USEP site again because I was viewing a thread here on the ring of hircine in which members stated USEP is not the official site for skyrim and has made up info just like the site you think I'm using.

UESP is the most reliable and detailed Elder Scrolls reference on the internet. Just because somebody said something on here doesn't mean it's true.

I should be giving you that facepalm.... most of the pages on usep look as if they've been written by eight year olds. And compare the info on Alduin from USEP to Elder scrolls wiki and the latter is clearly more detailed. Now it seems everyone is wrong because you are calling USEP official yet several other members don't. So is your word> there's? Let me find the thread while I'm at it. I think it was werewolf vs vamp lord.

 

[tx12001]

If your looking at the usep or es site or playing on console your wrong, he scales from difficulty.

They have difficulty levels for a reason. Otherwise his scaling would stay the same be it on novice or legendary.

I use the Creation kit, I am on PC not console, I am a Modder and that is not how difficulty works, higher difficulty means you do less damage, enemies do more, adept difficulty is 50/50 you can change difficulty ingame at any time it does not automatically increase an enemies level if you set it to legendary and it does not go down if you set it to novice, enemy scaling counts towards your characters level nothing else and correction alduins scaling is 1.20 your level not 1.25 as I said before

You are acting as if I've never played skyrim on a pc either or don't have friends that do? I have no reason to make this stuff up, I don't care if you believe Alduin is the weakest. My problem here is that everyone calls him weak yet they forget the fact they never actually fought him one on one. Added with all the people haxing their gear and using console commands to cheat through everything there's hardly a reliable reason to justify that Alduin is the weakest.

Tho it should be noted, on YouTube there are video battles of Alduin vs harkon and Alduin vs miraak. Alduin always owns them both. Decipher this as you see fit before saying which is the weakest. Imo harkon was pathetic. Miraak was decent.

that's because he can fly, ground him and put him against say karstagg or the ebony warrior, the ebony warrior is considered the most difficult enemy in the entire game not alduin, Listen to this alduin is level 100 at maximum with 2250 health and a 50% damage resistance while miraak is level 150 with 1600+ health and will fully heal himself 3 times, and in the fight against alduin on to of the throat of the world paarthurnax does not actually do any damage to alduin, also all NPCs do less damage to dragons than you do

 

[tx12001]

I use the Creation kit, I am on PC not console, I am a Modder and that is not how difficulty works, higher difficulty means you do less damage, enemies do more, adept difficulty is 50/50 you can change difficulty ingame at any time it does not automatically increase an enemies level if you set it to legendary and it does not go down if you set it to novice, enemy scaling counts towards your characters level nothing else and correction alduins scaling is 1.20 your level not 1.25 as I said before

You are acting as if I've never played skyrim on a pc either or don't have friends that do? I have no reason to make this stuff up, I don't care if you believe Alduin is the weakest. My problem here is that everyone calls him weak yet they forget the fact they never actually fought him one on one. Added with all the people haxing their gear and using console commands to cheat through everything there's hardly a reliable reason to justify that Alduin is the weakest.

Tho it should be noted, on YouTube there are video battles of Alduin vs harkon and Alduin vs miraak. Alduin always owns them both. Decipher this as you see fit before saying which is the weakest. Imo harkon was pathetic. Miraak was decent.

That's because Miraak and Harkon weren't allowed to regenerate health, Harkon probably wasn't in Vampire lord form and didn't have his gargoyles, and Miraak didn't have his dragons.

And UESP I would actually use over the CK, because it has pages for quest walkthroughs, best quests for low/high levels, and a ton of stuff you would never expect. It takes stats from the CK.

but numerous times have people jit the worng buttons when writing those pages out and that's why it is not 100% reliable, 95% at most

 

[Black Ice]

*Sigh* look guys, I never meant to get drawn into a debate at 11:30pm. So I'm just gonna say one more thing and be done.

The problem I have here is with people blatantly and always stating Alduin was a weak boss. They forget that the ONLY way to hurt Alduin is by making him land, he doesn't land on his own. That coupled with his high resistance, aoe meteor shout and his high health actually makes him a pretty op boss. Think about it. You never fought him one on one in game. You always had help. You need a specific shout in order to hurt him. And his meteor shower shout can do some damage along with his other breath shouts. That coupled with how by the time everyone actually gets to fight him in game they already have haxed their gear or spammed console commands and what not only seems to further how everyone thinks he's weak when in reality they are comparing his programmed skills with all the crap they did to their character.

So unless someone can promise to fight him on legendary difficulty with no hax or console commands (like I did and he whooped my butt several times) or oped weapons and THEN call him a weakling (with proof they did it of course).. we have nothing to discuss here.

Alduin is called the world eater for a reason. If he was programmed to be weak he shouldn't be the final boss unless bethesda just trolled you all.

I'm done here cause it seems this discussion derailed both the thread topic and my initial point.

 

[tx12001]

*Sigh* look guys, I never meant to get drawn into a debate at 11:30pm. So I'm just gonna say one more thing and be done.

The problem I have here is with people blatantly and always stating Alduin was a weak boss. They forget that the ONLY way to hurt Alduin is by making him land, he doesn't land on his own. That coupled with his high resistance, aoe meteor shout and his high health actually makes him a pretty op boss. Think about it. You never fought him one on one in game. You always had help. You need a specific shout in order to hurt him. And his meteor shower shout can do some damage along with his other breath shouts. That coupled with how by the time everyone actually gets to fight him in game they already have haxed their gear or spammed console commands and what not only seems to further how everyone thinks he's weak when in reality they are comparing his programmed skills with all the crap they did to their character.

So unless someone can promise to fight him on legendary difficulty with no hax or console commands (like I did and he whooped my butt several times) or oped weapons and THEN call him a weakling (with proof they did it of course).. we have nothing to discuss here.

Alduin is called the world eater for a reason. If he was programmed to be weak he shouldn't be the final boss unless bethesda just trolled you all.

I'm done here cause it seems this discussion derailed both the thread topic and my initial point.

Alduin in my game has 8000 Health will that count as a challenge?

 

[Black Ice]

*Sigh* look guys, I never meant to get drawn into a debate at 11:30pm. So I'm just gonna say one more thing and be done.

The problem I have here is with people blatantly and always stating Alduin was a weak boss. They forget that the ONLY way to hurt Alduin is by making him land, he doesn't land on his own. That coupled with his high resistance, aoe meteor shout and his high health actually makes him a pretty op boss. Think about it. You never fought him one on one in game. You always had help. You need a specific shout in order to hurt him. And his meteor shower shout can do some damage along with his other breath shouts. That coupled with how by the time everyone actually gets to fight him in game they already have haxed their gear or spammed console commands and what not only seems to further how everyone thinks he's weak when in reality they are comparing his programmed skills with all the crap they did to their character.

So unless someone can promise to fight him on legendary difficulty with no hax or console commands (like I did and he whooped my butt several times) or oped weapons and THEN call him a weakling (with proof they did it of course).. we have nothing to discuss here.

Alduin is called the world eater for a reason. If he was programmed to be weak he shouldn't be the final boss unless bethesda just trolled you all.

I'm done here cause it seems this discussion derailed both the thread topic and my initial point.

Alduin in my game has 8000 Health will that count as a challenge?

Be honest please, have you ever fought Alduin without hax, console commands or oped weapons or anything of the such? How about without using dragonrend? On legendary of course.

 

[Black Ice]

^ that's too much for me to be reading this late. If you could shorten it that'd be great. Although my last post explains what this has become.

 

[tx12001]

*Sigh* look guys, I never meant to get drawn into a debate at 11:30pm. So I'm just gonna say one more thing and be done.

The problem I have here is with people blatantly and always stating Alduin was a weak boss. They forget that the ONLY way to hurt Alduin is by making him land, he doesn't land on his own. That coupled with his high resistance, aoe meteor shout and his high health actually makes him a pretty op boss. Think about it. You never fought him one on one in game. You always had help. You need a specific shout in order to hurt him. And his meteor shower shout can do some damage along with his other breath shouts. That coupled with how by the time everyone actually gets to fight him in game they already have haxed their gear or spammed console commands and what not only seems to further how everyone thinks he's weak when in reality they are comparing his programmed skills with all the crap they did to their character.

So unless someone can promise to fight him on legendary difficulty with no hax or console commands (like I did and he whooped my butt several times) or oped weapons and THEN call him a weakling (with proof they did it of course).. we have nothing to discuss here.

Alduin is called the world eater for a reason. If he was programmed to be weak he shouldn't be the final boss unless bethesda just trolled you all.

I'm done here cause it seems this discussion derailed both the thread topic and my initial point.

Alduin in my game has 8000 Health will that count as a challenge?

Be honest please, have you ever fought Alduin without hax, console commands or oped weapons or anything of the such? How about without using dragonrend? On legendary of course.

I played skyrim for over a year on xbox so yes and back then I did not even know about the exploits to make yourself powerful and he was still easy

 

[tx12001]

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UESP is the most reliable and detailed Elder Scrolls reference on the internet. Just because somebody said something on here doesn't mean it's true.

I should be giving you that facepalm.... most of the pages on usep look as if they've been written by eight year olds. And compare the info on Alduin from USEP to Elder scrolls wiki and the latter is clearly more detailed. Now it seems everyone is wrong because you are calling USEP official yet several other members don't. So is your word> there's? Let me find the thread while I'm at it. I think it was werewolf vs vamp lord.

None of that is true. UESP has intricate, detailed pages on every single elder scrolls game.
Let me prove you wrong.
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Weapons_(Skyrim)
vs.
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Weapons
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Generic_Magic_Weapons
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Leveled_Items
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Artifacts
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Ammunition
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Staves
More specific. More detailed.
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Undead_(Skyrim)
vs.
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Undead
UESP wins.
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Mannimarco_(Daggerfall)
vs.
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Mannimarco
UESP wins.
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Battlespire:Battlespire
vs.
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/An_Elder_Scrolls_Legend:_Battlespire

UESP wins.
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Thieves_Guild_(Daggerfall)
vs.
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Thieves_Guild
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:A_Stolen_Gem
ESW doesn't even have all of the skills! how pathetic.
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Privateer's_Hold
vs.
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfallrivateer's_Hold
UESP wins.
Notice that EVERY SINGLE DUNGEON of EVERY SINGLE game is like this for UESP. Detailed. Gives walkthroughs. Hints. Loot locations.
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Daggerfall:Quests
vs.
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Quests_(Daggerfall)
Most of the links don't even exist! Pitiful.
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Neloth
vs.
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Neloth_(Morrowind)
UESP has more detailed NPC info.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Morrowind:Starting_Out
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:First_Time_Players
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Quest_Timing
Tons of lore pages.
Facts and featured articles .

• ... that Argonians prefer to call themselves Saxhleel, meaning "People of the Root" in Jel, their native tongue?
• ... that the Numidium was a giant Dwemer construct powered by theHeart of Lorkhan, and used by Tiber Septim to conquer all of Tamriel?
• ... that the only races in Skyrim that you can't marry are Bosmer andKhajiit?
• ... that Arena is the only TES game to feature all of Tamriel?
• ... that there are seventeen different types of Khajiit, and which type a Khajiit is born as is heavily tied to the Lunar Lattice?
• ... that the First Era lasted 2920 years, the Second Era lasted 897 years, and the Third only lasted 433 years?
• ... that Morrowind is the only game in the main series where the player does not have to fight his way out of a starter dungeon?
• ... that the Skyrim town of Dawnstar was once besieged by Ice Tribes, because Governor Cyril Vinticae foolishly let a traitor infiltrate his court?
• ... that The Howling Halls were built from the rubble of the Temple ofKynareth where Pelagius Septim III died?
• ... that the Shivering Isles is split into two distinct regions; Mania, the lighthearted side of its ruler's madness, and Dementia, the darker side?

"Welcome to the Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages! We have been building a collaborative source for all knowledge on the Elder Scrolls series of gamessince 1995,"


1995.
Opinions.
http://as.reddit.com/r/skyrim/comments/1dox5q/which_do_you_prefer_uesp_or_wikia_for_skyrim/
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/forums/read/9.392311-Poll-UESP-vs-Elder-Scrolls-Wiki
Poll UESP 120, ESW 22.
http://forums.uesp.net/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=27800
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/615803-the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim/66705708
http://www.gamespot.com/the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim/forum/uesp-or-wiki-59921704/
I can post a thousand more articles showing that UESP is superior and accurate.

nd so does the mind of a 12 year old who plays it 24/7 but that does not make them 100% accurate on it now does it, THE USEP is unofficial not official, if you want official information then read the skyrim official game guide

 

[Black Ice]

Alduin in my game has 8000 Health will that count as a challenge?

Be honest please, have you ever fought Alduin without hax, console commands or oped weapons or anything of the such? How about without using dragonrend? On legendary of course.

I played skyrim for over a year on xbox so yes and back then I did not even know about the exploits to make yourself powerful and he was still easy

Alduin in my game has 8000 Health will that count as a challenge?

Be honest please, have you ever fought Alduin without hax, console commands or oped weapons or anything of the such? How about without using dragonrend? On legendary of course.

I played skyrim for over a year on xbox so yes and back then I did not even know about the exploits to make yourself powerful and he was still easy

Sigh well I can tell this is going nowhere fast. Ok look, you think Alduin was easy, I think harkon & miraak were pathetic. I guess it's all about opinion. You asked which boss I thought was hardest. I replied in my honest opinion. But whatever I guess it's how you play. Though tbh the easiest way to find which is the strongest it to give miraak and harkon dragonrend and have em battle Alduin. I'd still bet money Alduin would solo them both without even losing half his health.

 

[tx12001]

Be honest please, have you ever fought Alduin without hax, console commands or oped weapons or anything of the such? How about without using dragonrend? On legendary of course.

I played skyrim for over a year on xbox so yes and back then I did not even know about the exploits to make yourself powerful and he was still easy

Be honest please, have you ever fought Alduin without hax, console commands or oped weapons or anything of the such? How about without using dragonrend? On legendary of course.

I played skyrim for over a year on xbox so yes and back then I did not even know about the exploits to make yourself powerful and he was still easy

Sigh well I can tell this is going nowhere fast. Ok look, you think Alduin was easy, I think harkon & miraak were pathetic. I guess it's all about opinion. You asked which boss I thought was hardest. I replied in my honest opinion. But whatever I guess it's how you play. Though tbh the easiest way to find which is the strongest it to give miraak and harkon dragonrend and have em battle Alduin. I'd still bet money Alduin would solo them both without even losing half his health.

it is the dragons advantage because they can fly, like a wasp killing a spider, if you clipped Alduins wings he would probably lose because in the air he moves to fast for their spells to make contact

 

[Black Ice]

I played skyrim for over a year on xbox so yes and back then I did not even know about the exploits to make yourself powerful and he was still easy

I played skyrim for over a year on xbox so yes and back then I did not even know about the exploits to make yourself powerful and he was still easy

Sigh well I can tell this is going nowhere fast. Ok look, you think Alduin was easy, I think harkon & miraak were pathetic. I guess it's all about opinion. You asked which boss I thought was hardest. I replied in my honest opinion. But whatever I guess it's how you play. Though tbh the easiest way to find which is the strongest it to give miraak and harkon dragonrend and have em battle Alduin. I'd still bet money Alduin would solo them both without even losing half his health.

it is the dragons advantage because they can fly, like a wasp killing a spider, if you clipped Alduins wings he would probably lose because in the air he moves to fast for their spells to make contact

Umm he's a bloody dragon. What is he supposed to do walk everywhere? Clipping his wings means you are handicapping him. That's like me saying take away miraaks shouts or harkons vl form. Your implying that miraak and harkon need two handicaps (dragonrend & clipping Alduins wings) in order to stand a chance? You just proved my case Alduin is the strongest of the three.

 

[Black Ice]

Anyways I'm going before I wound up staying on this all night defending my harmless point.

 

[tx12001]

Sigh well I can tell this is going nowhere fast. Ok look, you think Alduin was easy, I think harkon & miraak were pathetic. I guess it's all about opinion. You asked which boss I thought was hardest. I replied in my honest opinion. But whatever I guess it's how you play. Though tbh the easiest way to find which is the strongest it to give miraak and harkon dragonrend and have em battle Alduin. I'd still bet money Alduin would solo them both without even losing half his health.

it is the dragons advantage because they can fly, like a wasp killing a spider, if you clipped Alduins wings he would probably lose because in the air he moves to fast for their spells to make contact

Umm he's a bloody dragon. What is he supposed to do walk everywhere? Clipping his wings means you are handicapping him. That's like me saying take away miraaks shouts or harkons vl form. Your implying that miraak and harkon need two handicaps (dragonrend & clipping Alduins wings) in order to stand a chance? You just proved my case Alduin is the strongest of the three.

because he can fly, that is an unfair advantage to his enemies, he does not do as much damage as miraak does and he only has a little bit more health and that's not counting that miraak heals himself 3 times and is 50 levels higher than alduin at maximum

 

[Black Ice]

^ that's too much for me to be reading this late. If you could shorten it that'd be great. Although my last post explains what this has become.

"nd so does the mind of a 12 year old who plays it 24/7 but that does not make them 100% accurate on it now does it, THE USEP is unofficial not official, if you want official information then read the skyrim official game guide"

You don't understand how memory works. I guess you think a 12 year old could play every elder scrolls game make every decision hear every line of dialogue make every choice get every weapon find all the loot and remeber every single little detail like weapon weight, damage, abundance, casting cost, and some of the most obscure quests from ~10 year old games found in obscure times at obscure places? Alright then.
The official game guide lacks a lot of things UESP has.

Here, let me shorten it:
UESP is better. I just proved how. ESW is a newbie that tried to capitalize on Skyrim's popularity.
And if you need more encouragement?
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080614203358AACBFyD
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/615805-the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim/61036269

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Main_Page
vs.
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Lore
Terrible organization.

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Lycanthropy
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Lycanthropy

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Daedra
Lists books having to do with them as well.
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Ulfric_Stormcloak
vs.
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Ulfric_Stormcloak
Detail, detail, detail.

Ok for the record, I know 10 year olds that play skyrim and know more than some adults that play it. I wasn't arguing their intelligence on the game. I was arguing how they show it in writing.

 

[tx12001]

^ that's too much for me to be reading this late. If you could shorten it that'd be great. Although my last post explains what this has become.

"nd so does the mind of a 12 year old who plays it 24/7 but that does not make them 100% accurate on it now does it, THE USEP is unofficial not official, if you want official information then read the skyrim official game guide"

You don't understand how memory works. I guess you think a 12 year old could play every elder scrolls game make every decision hear every line of dialogue make every choice get every weapon find all the loot and remeber every single little detail like weapon weight, damage, abundance, casting cost, and some of the most obscure quests from ~10 year old games found in obscure times at obscure places? Alright then.
The official game guide lacks a lot of things UESP has.

Here, let me shorten it:
UESP is better. I just proved how. ESW is a newbie that tried to capitalize on Skyrim's popularity.
And if you need more encouragement?
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080614203358AACBFyD
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/615805-the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim/61036269

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Main_Page
vs.
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Lore
Terrible organization.

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Lycanthropy
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Lycanthropy

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Daedra
Lists books having to do with them as well.
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Ulfric_Stormcloak
vs.
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Ulfric_Stormcloak
Detail, detail, detail.

the creation kit can do that to and unlike the USEP, it is impossible for it to be wrong as it is read of the games data, that and the Official game guide are wear I get my information from not a website where anyone can change anything in it like wikipedia

 

[tx12001]

^ that's too much for me to be reading this late. If you could shorten it that'd be great. Although my last post explains what this has become.

"nd so does the mind of a 12 year old who plays it 24/7 but that does not make them 100% accurate on it now does it, THE USEP is unofficial not official, if you want official information then read the skyrim official game guide"

You don't understand how memory works. I guess you think a 12 year old could play every elder scrolls game make every decision hear every line of dialogue make every choice get every weapon find all the loot and remeber every single little detail like weapon weight, damage, abundance, casting cost, and some of the most obscure quests from ~10 year old games found in obscure times at obscure places? Alright then.
The official game guide lacks a lot of things UESP has.

Here, let me shorten it:
UESP is better. I just proved how. ESW is a newbie that tried to capitalize on Skyrim's popularity.
And if you need more encouragement?
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080614203358AACBFyD
http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/615805-the-elder-scrolls-v-skyrim/61036269

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Main_Page
vs.
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Lore
Terrible organization.

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Lycanthropy
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Lycanthropy

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Daedra
Lists books having to do with them as well.
http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Ulfric_Stormcloak
vs.
http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Ulfric_Stormcloak
Detail, detail, detail.

Ok for the record, I know 10 year olds that play skyrim and know more than some adults that play it. I wasn't arguing their intelligence on the game. I was arguing how they show it in writing.

now please this repeative conversation is gone way off course I believe it was originally supposed to be about who the hardest boss was not which source has the most accurate infomation